javascript: getting OUTER (real) browser window height?

i know there is s开发者_如何学Gotuff like window innerHeight etc. Can I retrieve the real window height of my browser (with all it's toolbars etc.)?? crossbrowser if possible?

regards matt

In most browsers, you can use window.outerWidth and window.outerHeight.

However, it's not generally possible in IE. It used to be possible to use a hacky solution involving window.resizeTo but that method no longer works in various situations, including whenever tabbed browsing is enabled.