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Would C# benefit from distinctions between kinds of enumerators, like C++ iterators?

I have been thinking about the IEnumerator.Reset() method. I read in the MSDN documentation that it only there for COM interop. As a C++ programmer it looks to me like a IEnumerator which supports Reset is what I would call a forward iterator, while an IEnumerator which does not support Reset is really an input iterator.

So part one of my question is, is this understanding correct?

The second part of my question is, would it be of any benefit in C# if there was a distinction made between input iterators and forward iterators (or "enumerators" if you prefer)? Would it not help eliminate some confusion among programmers, like the one found in this SO question about cloning iterators?

EDIT: Clarification on forward and input iterators. An input iterator only guarantees that you can enumerate the members of a collection (or from a generator function or an input stream) only once. This is exactly how IEnumerator works in C#. Whether or not you can enumerate a second time, is determined by whether or not Reset is supported. A forward iterator, does not have this restriction. You can enumerate over the members as often as you want.

Some C# programmers don't underestand why an IEnumerator cannot be reliably used in a multipass algorithm. Consider the following case:

void PrintContents(IEnumerator<int> xs)
{
  while (iter.MoveNext())
    Console.WriteLine(iter.Current); 
  iter.Reset();
  while (iter.MoveNext())
    Console.WriteLine(iter.Current); 
}

If we call PrintContents in this context, no problem:

List<int> ys = new List<int>() { 1, 2, 3 }
PrintContents(ys.GetEnumerator()); 

However look at the following:

IEnumerable<int> GenerateInts() {   
  System.Random rnd = new System.Random();
  for (int i=0; i < 10; ++i)
    yield return Rnd.Next();
}

PrintContents(GenerateInts());

If the IEnumerator supported Reset, in othe开发者_JAVA百科r words supported multi-pass algorithms, then each time you iterated over the collection it would be different. This would be undesirable, because it would be surprising behavior. This example is a bit faked, but it does occur in the real world (e.g. reading from file streams).


Reset was a big mistake. I call shenanigans on Reset. In my opinion, the correct way to reflect the distinction you are making between "forward iterators" and "input iterators" in the .NET type system is with the distinction between IEnumerable<T> and IEnumerator<T>.

See also this answer, where Microsoft's Eric Lippert (in an unofficial capactiy, no doubt, my point is only that he's someone with more credentials than I have to make the claim that this was a design mistake) makes a similar point in comments. Also see also his awesome blog.


Interesting question. My take is that of course C# would benefit. However, it wouldn't be easy to add.

The distinction exists in C++ because of its much more flexible type system. In C#, you don't have a robust generic way to clone objects, which is necessary to represent forward iterators (to support multi-pass iteration). And of course, for this to be really useful, you'd also need to support bidirectional and random-access iterators/enumerators. And to get them all working smoothly, you really need some form of duck-typing, like C++ templates have.

Ultimately, the scopes of the two concepts are different.

In C++, iterators are supposed to represent everything you need to know about a range of values. Given a pair of iterators, I don't need the original container. I can sort, I can search, I can manipulate and copy elements as much as I like. The original container is out of the picture.

In C#, enumerators are not meant to do quite as much. Ultimately, they're just designed to let you run through the sequence in a linear manner.

As for Reset(), it is widely accepted that it was a mistake to add it in the first place. If it had worked, and been implemented correctly, then yes, you could say your enumerator was analogous to forward iterators, but in general, it's best to ignore it as a mistake. And then all enumerators are similar only to input iterators.

Unfortunately.


Coming from the C# perspective:

You almost never use IEnumerator directly. Usually you do a foreach statement, which expects a IEnumerable.

IEnumerable _myCollection;
...
foreach (var item in _myCollection) { /* Do something */ }

You don't pass around IEnumerator either. If you want to pass an collection which needs iteration, you pass IEnumerable. Since IEnumerable has a single function, which returns an IEnumerator, it can be used to iterate the collection multiple times (multiple passes).

There's no need for a Reset() function on IEnumerator because if you want to start over, you just throw away the old one (garbage collected) and get a new one.


The .NET framework would benefit immensely if there were a means of asking an IEnumerator<T> about what abilities it could support and what promises it could make. Such features would also be helpful in IEnumerable<T>, but being able to ask the questions of an enumerator would allow code that can receive an enumerator from wrappers like ReadOnlyCollection to use the underlying collection in improve ways without having to involve the wrapper.

Given any enumerator for a collection that is capable of being enumerated in its entirety and isn't too big, one could produce from it an IEnumerable<T> that would always yield the same sequence of items (specifically the set of items remaining in the enumerator) by reading its entire content to an array, disposing and discarding the enumerator, and getting an enumerators from the array (using that in place of the original abandoned enumerator), wrapping the array in a ReadOnlyCollection<T>, and returning that. Although such an approach would work with any kind of enumerable collection meeting the above criteria, it would be horribly inefficient with most of them. Having a means of asking an enumerator to yield its remaining contents in an immutable IEnumerable<T> would allow many kinds of enumerators to perform the indicated action much more efficiently.


I don't think so. I would call IEnumerable a forward iterator, and an input iterator. It does not allow you to go backwards, or modify the underlying collection. With the addition of the foreach keyword, iterators are almost a non-thought most of the time.

Opinion: The difference between input iterators (get each one) vs. output iterators (do something to each one) is too trivial to justify an addition to the framework. Also, in order to do an output iterator, you would need to pass a delegate to the iterator. The input iterator seems more natural to C# programmers.

There's also IList<T> if the programmer wants random access.

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