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What is a good way to produce a random "site salt" to be used in creating password retrieval tokens?

I would like to create a site-wide hash to be used as salt in creating password retrieval tokens. I have been bouncing around stackoverflow trying to get a sense of the best way to do this.

Here's the reset process:

When a user requests a password reset email the code generates a retrieval token:

$token = hash_hmac('sha256', $reset_hash* , $site_hash)

*$reset_hash is a hash created using phpass HashPassword() function, saved in the user table.

I then send the token in a URL to the users email address. They click before the token times out in an hour. I match their submission with the a challenge token generated server-side. If it matches, then they are forced to choose a new password, and then login.

I would like to know the best way to generate the $site_key. I am thinking of using another HMAC hash that is seeded by random numbers:

$site_key = hash_hmac('sha256', MCRYPT_DEV_RANDOM, MCRYPT_DEV_RANDOM);

This produces something like this:

98bb403abbe62f5552f03494126a732c3be69b41401673b08cbfefa46d9e8999

Will this be a suitably random to be used for this purpose? Am I overcomplicating this, or approaching it the wrong way?

I was inspired to use HMAC by this answer

EDIT: I am trying to avoid a 'secret question' step urged by some of my coworkers, so I would like the reset link to provide a single step to resetting the password. Therefore, my concern is that this process be secure enough to safeguard a system containing sensitive information.

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RESOLVED, for now: I am going to go with a nonce as described by The Rook as the reset token. Thanks everyone for the comments and feedback.


To start with, your not talking about a salt. You're talking about a Cryptographic Nonce, and when you salt a password you should use a Cryptographic Nonce. In the case of resetting passwords, it should be a random number that is stored in the database. It is not advantageous to have have a "site salt".

First and foremost I don't like uniqid() because it's a time heavy calculation and time is a very weak seed. rand() vs mt_rand(), spoiler: rand() is total crap.

In a web application a good source for secure secrets is non-blocking access to an entropy pool such as /dev/urandom. As of PHP 5.3, PHP applications can use openssl_random_pseudo_bytes(), and the Openssl library will choose the best entropy source based on your operating system, under Linux this means the application will use /dev/urandom. This code snip from Scott is pretty good:

function crypto_rand_secure($min, $max) {
        $range = $max - $min;
        if ($range < 0) return $min; // not so random...
        $log = log($range, 2);
        $bytes = (int) ($log / 8) + 1; // length in bytes
        $bits = (int) $log + 1; // length in bits
        $filter = (int) (1 << $bits) - 1; // set all lower bits to 1
        do {
            $rnd = hexdec(bin2hex(openssl_random_pseudo_bytes($bytes)));
            $rnd = $rnd & $filter; // discard irrelevant bits
        } while ($rnd >= $range);
        return $min + $rnd;
}

function getToken($length=32){
    $token = "";
    $codeAlphabet = "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ";
    $codeAlphabet.= "abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz";
    $codeAlphabet.= "0123456789";
    for($i=0;$i<$length;$i++){
        $token .= $codeAlphabet[crypto_rand_secure(0,strlen($codeAlphabet))];
    }
    return $token;
}
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