Could I hide the encryption key of a c# exe securely (in a way that can't be decompiled in any known way), as in C/C++?

I love c# for programming applications (I consider myself intermediate with c#, and a bit less with C/C++, but am only learning, nothing real yet in the arena), and I used to like it until i discovered "anyone" who understand MSIL (not an easy task to learn neither) could decompile my code. I don’t really care about someone decompiling my code, but my utter concern is the security for my eventual program users. I know obfuscators exist, and I even know of one or two that are really good, I hear (even if they only delay a decompiling).

For example, if I want to decrypt something using c#, some where in the code the key should be, making it a danger for anyone who use my program (someone who know someone who encrypted the file using my program could decrypt it by researching on my MSIL code, finding my key). Then, the developing of massive applications that encrypt/decrypt stuff (or OpenSSL) is insane with c#, I think, for this reason.

I mean, most users won’t know what language was used to make that exe, but a bunch of people are able to program n c#, and an elite of this people can read MSIL, and a minority of this elite would like to hack what ever is possible to hack. Of those people who like to hack, some of them can do it with perverse intentions (in a value-less world where we live that shouldn’t surprise anyone).

So, if I want to make a program that download a file from the internet, someone could interfere the transmission and do some evil, even if I use OpenSSL with c#, b开发者_开发知识库ecause somewhere in the c# file is the key. I know avoiding hacking is probably impossible, but it looks like c# is a very unsecure way.

Does it happen with Java? (Java has the same “interpreting” and “decompile” structure as C#); I mean, the fact that the key is visible in Java (with some educated eye) some where in the building file? Or does Java use some C/C++ based API that makes it harder (way harder) to decompile the file where the key is and so making it hard to get the key?

Is my only option to write my program with c/c++? Because if so, my only option is C++Builder, since its a hell to even try to watch (and less to learn) MFC/OWL code; I mean: I cant hardly think of someone who could like MFC/OWL programming. In fact, I suppose Assembly could be of more interest in the today programming world.

So, here I am, wanting to find someone who could explain me better a way to store securely crypto keys for encrypting/decrypting or to use OpenSSL with c#. Or even with Java. I would like to confirm that C/C++ is the only way of really using these features with some security for decompiling reasons (as other compiled programming languages, i.e. Delphi).

If anyone knows a site where I can find precise information about the subtle reasoning I suppose I have done (specially one that shows am wrong in my analysis), please tell me. If any one can confirm my analysis, please confirm. If anyone find any hole in my analysis, again, please tell me, and where to find more information that rule me to get a better understanding of all this.

Am sorry for making this philosophical computer programming question that long.

Thank you,

McNaddy

Could I hide the encryption key of a c# exe securely (in a way that can't be decompiled in any known way), as in C/C++?

No. You can't do that in any language.

The .NET security system is designed to protect benign users from hostile code. You are trying to protect benign code from hostile users. You simply cannot do that, so don't even try. If you have a secret, do not share it with anyone.

The purpose of crypto is to leverage the secrecy of some private key into the secrecy of a text. If that is not the security problem you face, crypto is the wrong tool. Explain the security problem you actually have and someone here can help you solve it.

So, if I want to make a program that download a file from the internet, someone could interfere the transmission and do some evil, even if I use OpenSSL with c#, because somewhere in the c# file is the key.

You don't need to store a secret key in the program just to download a file safely.

If you want to ensure that the file you downloaded is authentic and hasn't been modified in transit, you use a digital signature. The private key used to make the signature doesn't have to be (and shouldn't be) distributed with the program; all the program needs is the corresponding public key, which you don't have to hide.

If you want to prevent eavesdroppers from reading the file as it's downloaded, then you need to encrypt it, but that can be done with a temporary session key generated randomly for each download; it doesn't have to be stored anywhere. If you use HTTPS for your download, it'll do this for you.

The choice you've mentioned (embed key into executable) is bad irrespective of language you choose - it is not too hard to extract data from C/C++ and slightly easier for C#/Java.

As Jordão said - you need to figure out your story of distributing key outside the binaries. You also need to figure out what you actually trying to protect and understand possible exploits. Just using encryption of some sort in an application does not make it more secure.

You should not store cryptographic keys inside assemblies; they should normally be provided from outside, e.g. from a key-store, or derived from a secret known to a user.

You can also generate a key from a password(this means the key is no more stronger than the password though). So each time the user runs the program, they are prompted for a password, and that password is then used to generate a key. Depending on your requirements you could employ this in a variety of ways.

When the user needs to access the encrypted data, the password can be provided again and this generates the key for use during that session. Once the program is closed the key is discarded(there are techniques/APIs in C# to help ensure that sensitive data is only present in memory as short a time as possible).

For example, this is essentially what many password storing programs like Keepass or Roboform do. The user can upload and download the encrypted data to and from servers. No keys are ever stores, and instead generated on demand as the user supplies their password for that session.

With a service like Dropbox, when you register with their site, they generate the private key on their server and keep a copy there. So the user's machine and client software never store the key, but the server has a copy stored. Dropbox does this so that they can decrypt user data for many purposes, such as compression, de-duplication, compliance with law enforcement, etc.