Vim users, where do you rest your right hand? [closed]
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Improve this questionLongtime vim users, do you keep your fingers onjkl;
or hjkl
in normal mode?
Standard touch typing teaches us the home position for the right hand has the index finger on the j
key, so your fingers are on jkl;
.
But standard vim motion keys are hjkl
.
I'm getting back into vim after 10+ years (omg, I got old when I wasn't paying attention) and find myself gravitating towards hjkl
... but that makes it harder to type upper-right letters, braces, etc. I'd like to train myself to use the most efficient/pragmatic method now instead of having to re-train later.
Longtime, hardcore vim users, what's the best practice?
Note:
- Bigger overlap with How do touch typists navigate in vi?
- I think this passes the "subjective" test because it's about deliberately cultivating an unconscious best-practice and not simply about people's preference
I think that jkl;
is actually the more appropriate usage for vi. For one, h
and l
really don't matter that much. w
, e
, and b
are significantly more useful for horizontal navigation. As a bonus, ;
is easy to get at if the language requires it. Having a weaker finger on k
hurts, and you don't need your strongest finger on the h
, when it should be on the j
which is probably the most used of the four.
Intro
Neither of the previous 2 solutions was 100% satisfactory. I propose a 3rd way, one that combines the best of both worlds
My Recomendation: "down-up-left-right"
Keep up/down where they are, then make 3rd & 4th fingers left & right
Then, to avoid overwriting base Vim features: Toss whatever used to be on ; to the now-empty h button
As a cute bonus, the "l" key now stands for "left" ;)
noremap l h
noremap ; l
noremap h ;
The previous "runners-up", who both use "left-down-up-right" layout:
Choice 1: "hjkl"
@alternative's recommendation. Keybinds stay default (hjkl), right hand stays on home row (jkl;)
- pros:
- j (down) and k (up) stay on your primary 2 fingers, where they deserve
- cons:
- You have to reach over for h (left). Even if this isn't as used as w,e,b, it's still a bloody arrow button and it would be nice to have on home row
- Basically: All 4 fingers aren't naturally resting on arrow buttons. This confuses my hand
Choice 2: "jkl;"
Slide those 4 binds over 1 so they sit on the home row:
noremap ; l
noremap l k
noremap k j
noremap j h
- pros:
- No finger confusion; all the arrows are under the fingers naturally
- cons:
- As @alternative said, up/down being on the 2nd and 3rd finger is very "non-optimal"
- Similarly, the strongest finger being on left is also a waste
I keep my hands on the home row, in the normal touch-typist manner. Rarely do I use the h key for movement, as moving one space to the left is not usually an efficient way to move (and does not really fit the essence of Vim).
I understand, that hjkl
is used for historic reasons (i.e. Here is why vim uses the hjkl keys as arrow keys) and it is not based on any ergonomic rationale.
I personally prefer to follow the approach recommended by i3 window manager which as explained in the FAQ on Why does the default config use jkl; instead of hjkl? is an ergonomic choice.
i3 uses
jkl;
because these keys make up the "home row" underneath your right hand when touch typing.
Check this on vim remapping the hjkl to jkl;
While I understand Vim's philosophy of having all the movement available in the home row, I found hjkl
to be counter intuitive. A much more saner map I thought would be a wasd-like setup with ijkl
nnoremap j h
nnoremap k j
nnoremap i k
I found this to be very easy to navigate with very natrually.
j:left
i:up
k:down
l:right
For toggling in/out of insert/normal mode, I personally use Alt-e
since I almost always use Gvim and not have to worry that some terminals have issues with Alt.
nnoremap <A-e> i
inoremap <A-e> <esc>l
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